On May 2nd, 1972, Captain Terrence Courtney piloted an AC-130 gunship, also known as an AC-119 Stinger, during a daytime mission in Vietnam, where it was the only one of its kind ever shot down [recap]. While at approximately 4,000 feet, the aircraft was catastrophically struck by 23mm anti-aircraft fire, disabling both right-side engines and causing a large fire [recap]. Despite the severe damage and knowing the aircraft was in an uncontrollable descent, Captain Courtney, demonstrating immense self-sacrifice, remained at his post with his co-pilot, struggling to keep the plane level by applying full left yoke and rudder [recap]. He ordered his crew to bail out, explicitly telling his co-pilot, "I've got this I can hold it long enough you go I order you to go," understanding that releasing the controls would make escape impossible for anyone else [recap]. Out of 10 crew members, seven successfully bailed out, but Captain Courtney and two others perished [recap]. His heroic actions, which were considered "Medal of Honor work," earned him the Air Force Cross posthumously [recap]. This incident highlighted the predictable dangers of assigning an AC-119 gunship to a daytime mission in such a heavily contested area

People: Courtney Terrence, Smith Lamar

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, AC-119 "Flying Box Car"

Units: 1st SOS

Topics: CSAR - Combat Search And Rescue, SAR - Search and Rescue

In this episode of Military Tales, retired Captain Larry Zimmerman shares his firsthand experience at Task Force Alpha, a high-tech intelligence center in Thailand during the Vietnam War. From 1969–1970, Zimmerman led aerial photo intelligence, helping track enemy movements along the Ho Chi Minh Trail using cutting-edge technology—acoustic sensors, aerial photography, and early drones like the Pave Eagle. He describes the facility as something out of Star Wars, with massive computers and daily briefings for top generals. Zimmerman details how sensor data was relayed from the jungle, through orbiting aircraft, and back to Task Force Alpha to guide airstrikes and map enemy activity. The episode also touches on unauthorized bombing missions, the strategic challenges of interdicting North Vietnamese supply lines, and Zimmerman's later service in Desert Storm. A fascinating look at secret tech, Cold War strategy, and the evolution of modern warfare.

People: Zimmerman, Larry

Units: Task Force Alpha

Join us for a powerful story of resilience and survival. In this episode, hear a Vietnam veteran recount his experience from growing up in eastern North Carolina to joining the Air Force and serving as a helicopter crew chief. He describes being shot down over North Vietnam on September 20, 1965, and the subsequent 2,703 days spent in captivity. Learn about his time in the infamous Hanoi Hilton, communicating via the tap code, the challenges of daily life and torture, the significance of events like the Santay raid, and the ultimate return home with honor, reflecting on the sacrifices made for freedom.

People: Robinson, William A

Topics: Prisoner of War

In Episode 70 of Military Tales, host Mike Thornton talks with Colonel James C. Harding, ranked among the most decorated military heroes in American history for his valor and achievement. Colonel Harding recounts his journey from a dairy farm to flying nearly 5,000 hours and an extraordinary 596 combat missions over Vietnam in propeller-driven aircraft. He shares his experiences starting as a Ground FAC, transitioning to flying the O-1 and A-1 Skyraider out of Nakhon Phanom (NKP), where his critical mission became combat search and rescue (SAR), providing protection for rescue helicopters. Colonel Harding describes being shot at "almost all the time" and being shot down twice, including a harrowing account of his A-1 being hit by an SA-7 missile, forcing him to eject at low altitude, evade capture, and neutralize three enemy combatants before being rescued. He details participation in remarkable rescue missions like Bat 21, the AC-130 Spectre crew, Clyde Smith, Roger, and the incredibly courageous Valiant 04 Alpha rescue of Lynn Eggman, reflecting on the immense bravery witnessed. The conversation concludes with Colonel Harding's reflections on the brotherhood of veterans, the outcomes of recent conflicts, leadership, and the importance of faith in the nation's strength.

People: Harding, James C

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, F-84 Thunderjet, F-86 Sabre, O-1 Bird Dog, O-2 Skymaster, T-33 Shooting Star

In Episode 69 of Military Tales, host Mike Thornton sits down with James Michael "Jim" Hoover for a captivating journey through his 20-year career in the United States Air Force, beginning as an Airman Basic and culminating in his retirement as a Captain. Jim provides a candid look at his foundational year as an Airman First Class security policeman at Nakhon Phanom (NKP) Royal Thai Air Force Base during the Vietnam War, detailing his diverse duties guarding the perimeter, working the flight line and base jail, and manning dangerous checkpoints where he once encountered a deadly two-step viper. He shares surprising anecdotes, from guarding figures like General Butcher and gaining insight into the top-secret Task Force Alpha, to how a simple offer to help with typing led to office duties and ultimately a recommendation for Officer Training School. Jim also speaks openly about the profound, lasting health impacts of Agent Orange exposure at NKP, the unexpected discovery of aluminum cans being smuggled from base to be melted into bombs, and concludes with a powerful, personal reflection on facing mortality and his faith, offering listeners a unique and comprehensive veteran's perspective.

In Episode 68 of Military Tales, join host Mike Thornton and historian Monique Taylor, author of "Suicide Jockeys," as they delve into the fascinating and often-overlooked story of World War II glider pilots. Based on actual documentation, Monique shares the true experiences of these airmen who navigated incredible dangers with "no engines, no parachutes, no second chances", serving as the critical "supply line" delivering essential equipment like 75mm pack howitzers and Jeeps Behind Enemy Lines amidst mass chaos and perilous landing zones, highlighting their unique role and eventual recognition with the Glider Badge for their bravery and vital contributions.

In Episode 67 of Military Tales, we feature Captain Richard E. Diller, an Air Force A-1 Skyraider pilot who served in Vietnam. Captain Diller recounts his experiences during the challenging, multi-day Boxer 22 rescue mission, detailing his flights including flying at low altitudes near the Ho Chi Minh Trail to keep the enemy busy and taking crucial photographs from 10,000 feet that would years later significantly aid the family of the front-seater lost in the incident. He emphasizes his deep sense of responsibility to help families of lost servicemen find closure, sharing emotional stories of connecting with the relatives of fellow pilots like Jim Herrick and Rick Chan to provide information and help them understand what happened, stressing the importance for veterans to "Write Your Story down, tell your story".

People: Diller Richard

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider

Topics: Boxer 22, SAR - Search and Rescue

In Episode 66 of Military Tales, join us for a compelling conversation with Lt. Don Engebretsen, an Air Force A-1 Skyraider pilot who flew in Vietnam. Don shares his journey from unexpected assignment to the "Spad" to becoming a veteran of vital Search and Rescue (SAR) and MCV SOG support missions. He recounts the intense responsibility felt for the guys on the ground, flying low "in the weeds" amidst heavy fire, and navigating complex, harrowing rescues like the debated Wolf 06/Wolf 7 SAR. Hear about the deep camaraderie within his unit, the enduring meaning of the "Spads with a Load" song, and the powerful experience of connecting years later with veterans he helped save, truly understanding the "value of what we did."

People: Engebretsen, Don

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider

In Episode 65 of Military Tales, we feature Albert J. "Jax" Roberts, an Air Force A-1 Skyraider pilot who flew during the Vietnam War. Jax shares compelling stories from his time flying the "Spad," focusing on his critical role in supporting Army Special Forces teams during insertions and extractions, as well as Search and Rescue (SAR) missions. He recounts the intense feelings before dangerous missions, the close coordination with ground troops, and the profound experience of meeting veterans he helped save years later, realizing the "value of what we did". The episode also details an incredible rescue of a pilot previously declared killed in action and Jax's unique, albeit untested, "naked" escape and evade plan. Join us to hear Jax's candid reflections on the war and his harrowing, yet heartwarming, tales of flying the A-1.

In Episode 64 of Military Tales, hear from a Forward Air Controller (FAC) with the 20th Tactical Air Support Squadron who provides a compelling account of supporting Operation Tailwind, the deepest United States military incursion into Laos. Serving as an "orchestra leader" from his O-2 Skymaster (Oscar Deuce), he directed air support for a company-sized "hatchet force" of 133 guys facing intense ground fire deep in enemy territory. The episode details the perilous insertion and extraction phases, the immense air power available during a "prairie fire" emergency, and the personal story of a harrowing search for a missing indigenous soldier. The veteran also addresses the controversial 1998 CNN report about the operation, clarifying the use of CS gas/powder and dismissing claims of sarin nerve gas.

Episode 63 of Military Tales features Lieutenant Colonel (Ret.) Thomas A. Dwelle, who flew close air support (CAS) missions in the Skyraider (A-1E) during the Vietnam War. Serving from February 1965 to February 1966, he completed 270 missions, often scrambled off night alert to support troops in contact facing dire situations where, as he puts it, they "were going to die" without immediate help. Dwelle recounts the intensity of these missions, using tactics like flying with lights on to draw enemy fire, and highlights the exceptionally high Skyraider losses during this period due to the nature of staying until the enemy was defeated. He also touches on the dangers of Search and Rescue (SAR) missions and shares a challenging rescue story. Upon returning, Dwelle debriefed senior military leaders, advocating for critical needs like improved SAR systems and the need for more Skyraiders, and was sent to the RAND Corporation where he was instrumental in defining the requirements for the new CAS aircraft that would eventually become the iconic A-10 Warthog, ensuring it had a big gun and good armor plating for the pilot.

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, A-10 Warthog

Episode 62 of Military Tales brings you the extraordinary story of Gerald W., a 98-year-old WWII veteran who volunteered for the Army Air Force at age 18, eventually becoming a B-17 co-pilot stationed at Eye, England. He recounts the harrowing second mission where his B-17 chaff ship was shot down over Germany, leading to a terrifying moment when his parachute deployed inside the aircraft before he successfully bailed out at 5,000 feet. Gerald shares the details of his three-day evasion on the ground, navigating through woods, enduring bitter cold after crossing an ice-cold stream, and struggling with hunger before being discovered and surrendering. His journey continued through German custody, eventually reuniting with his crew and friends at Stalag Luft 1, an Air Force officers' POW camp, until their liberation by the Russians. He concludes by reflecting on his post-war career as a civil engineer and Air Force Reservist who retired as a Major, and the remarkable moment years later when his great-grandson located the exact spot in Germany where he had landed.

Aircraft: B-17 Flying Fortress

Episode 61 of Military Tales features Brigadier General (Ret.) John Wilkinson, who served as a Military Intelligence officer at Nakhon Phanom (NKP), Thailand, from October 1968 to October 1969. Wilkinson provides a unique intelligence perspective on his work supporting A-1 Skyraider missions over Laos, including Barrel Roll and Steel Tiger, and his critical role in briefing and providing real-time intelligence for Search and Rescue (SAR) operations for downed pilots, often listening to radio communications in the command post. He shares a captivating story of taking an impromptu flight on a two-seater Skyraider strike mission to experience the pilots' reality firsthand, a decision that resulted in airsickness and a reprimand from his commanding officer due to his top-secret clearance. Wilkinson reflects on the profound emotional highs and lows of SAR missions and the deep camaraderie he shared with the pilots of the 602nd Squadron, expressing immense admiration for them as the bravest men he ever served with, despite the significant pilot losses during his tour.

Above and Beyond: Don Feld's Heroic Missions in Vietnam Colonel Don Feld’s military journey is a testament to courage, resilience, and a commitment to the Air Force creed, “Leave no one behind.” Inspired by his father, a WWII bomber pilot, Don’s path led from Iowa State’s ROTC program to flying the A-1 Skyraider during some of the most daring rescue missions of the Vietnam War. Initially skeptical of the propeller-driven Skyraider, Don soon realized its unmatched capability for close air support and rescue missions. As a “Sandy” pilot, he led critical operations to retrieve downed airmen under intense enemy fire. His heroism was especially evident during Operation Tailwind, where he flew at treetop level to help rescue over 100 surrounded troops using tear gas and precision flying. After Vietnam, Don continued to serve as a T-38 instructor, F-16 software engineer, and U-2 pilot during the Cold War, flying reconnaissance missions above 70,000 feet. His career reflects a deep dedication to mission and team, with each flight driven by a powerful sense of purpose. Don Feld’s legacy—and that of all Sandy pilots—lives on at the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force, where the Skyraider exhibit honors their bravery. His story is a reminder of the extraordinary sacrifices made to bring every warrior home.

Episode 59 of Military Tales features Steve Umland, a former Air Force photo interpreter who offers a rare look into the highly classified Task Force Alpha at Nakhon Phanom (NKP), Thailand. Established to monitor and disrupt the enemy's intricate Ho Chi Minh Trail network in Laos, Task Force Alpha employed sophisticated acoustic and seismic sensors dropped by F-4 aircraft, collecting vital intelligence on enemy movement, which was then analyzed using film by interpreters like Umland in a "Star Wars"-like War Room. Umland shares his experiences analyzing reconnaissance film, identifying targets under camouflage, conducting Bomb Damage Assessment (BDA), and the challenges of poor communication between intelligence and strike pilots, before detailing his later assignment to the secretive 67th Reconnaissance Technical Squadron at Yokota Air Base, Japan, where he analyzed SR-71 film for the infamous Sante Prison Raid. His analysis led him to controversially conclude the prison appeared abandoned, a finding contrary to prevailing intelligence, yet ultimately supported by the raid's outcome, which despite finding no prisoners, Umland views as a "Successful Failure" for raising POW morale and leading to consolidation of camps. This episode highlights the intense, cutting-edge nature of this secret intelligence work and the enduring impact of Vietnam War efforts.

People: Umland, Steve

Units: Task Force Alpha

Episode 58 of Military Tales features George Merritt, an A-1 Skyraider Sandy pilot, recounting a harrowing Search and Rescue (SAR) mission on March 10, 1969, in Laos, where a USAF F-4D Phantom was shot down near Chapone. Merritt's team successfully rescued the backseater, Al Routina, but the front seater, Colonel Carter Luna, remained missing. The episode then introduces Susan Crosby, a former law enforcement detective who, for half a century, wore an MIA bracelet bearing Colonel Luna's name. Driven by a deep sense of purpose, Susan utilized her investigative skills to research his fate, delving into reports, meticulously organizing search and rescue logs, connecting with veterans like Merritt and Routina, and forming a close bond with Colonel Luna's family. Her dedication led her to travel to Laos multiple times, visiting the remote area of the crash site, including Colonel Luna's last known position and exploring potential burial locations. Through her work, combining research and ground exploration amidst the challenges of unexploded ordnance, the most consistent information suggests Colonel Luna was killed shortly after ejecting. This powerful episode highlights the enduring impact of the Vietnam War's missing, the ongoing efforts by the government and individuals like Susan, whose tireless quest embodies the spirit of those who risked everything with the motto, "That Others May Live".

Episode 57 of Military Tales dives into the clandestine "secret war" waged against the Ho Chi Minh Trail in Laos, revealing the harrowing partnership between MACV-SOG Special Forces Green Berets and their dedicated Air Force support. Hear firsthand accounts from those who risked everything on Prairie Fire missions – dangerous intelligence-gathering operations deep behind enemy lines – and the pilots flying OV-10s, A-1 Skyraiders, and helicopters who provided essential, often heroic, air support and extractions under intense enemy fire. This episode uncovers the immense challenges, sacrifices, and incredible bravery involved in fighting a hidden battle against a heavily defended logistical network, highlighting the deep bond between the SOG operators and their air partners who faced staggering odds to disrupt the flow of troops and supplies down the trail.

Military Tales Episode 56 features retired Colonel John Joseph "Hoss" Mulligan, U.S. Air Force, sharing his extraordinary Vietnam War story. He takes listeners inside the cockpit of his F-4 Phantom during a legendary 15-minute dogfight on May 20, 1967, flying alongside Colonel Robin Olds against overwhelming odds of 32 MiG-17s, a battle believed to be the longest in jet aviation history. Shot down and severely injured with burns and a torn knee ligament, Colonel Mulligan then recounts his brutal six years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam, detailing the unimaginable conditions of torture, starvation, and disease, including his own use of maggots and urine to treat his burns, and revealing the critical factors like their communication network, military discipline, and unwavering faith and hope that led to a remarkable 90% POW survival rate.

Episode 55 of Military Tales features retired Major William John Mackey, U.S. Air Force, sharing his journey through a diverse military career. Starting as a maintenance officer, his path led him to the then-classified Nakhon Phanom (NKP), Thailand, from 1970 to 1971, where he maintained various aircraft for operations like the C-123 Candlestick flare drops and Project Alpha's QU-22Bs, even dealing with Agent Orange residue on C-123s and training on the Yankee extraction system for the A-1 Skyraider. Upon returning to the States, his career shifted dramatically into the Titan II ICBM missile program, where he served as a launch crew and sector commander, improving training realism. He later served as an avionics officer for B-52s and Chief Maintenance Officer for a Fighter Wing in Europe, troubleshooting complex aircraft like "Arnold the pig" and implementing new technologies like the Have Quick radio system. Reflecting on his extensive service, Major Mackey, who also had a background in chemical warfare preparedness, strongly recommends the military for providing structure and continuous learning and offers insights on the contributions of women and the potential impacts of AI.

Episode 54 of Military Tales features Sergeant Randolph Nagy, U.S. Air Force retired, who served as a Security Policeman and mortar Gunner at Nakhon Phanom (NKP), Thailand, from July 1972 to August 1973. He recounts his immediate impression of the monstrous, muggy heat upon arrival and the Passenger Terminal sign welcoming him to "the end of the world". Nagy shares experiences working the base perimeter, dealing with black market activity, and locals attempting to penetrate the fences, including a tense incident involving a law enforcement specialist and a local firing a gun. A central part of his account is the verified story of a B-52 tail Gunner who crashed south of base during Linebacker II, landed on the highway, and walked through the main gate asking for a drink, a crash Nagy heard and saw. He also describes watching the war across the Mekong River, seeing fighter planes drop napalm and bombs on Takhli and witnessing gunships' "Rains of Fire" at night from base, sights that occasionally haunted him. Decades later, Nagy found significant closure by returning to NKP, finding much of the base reclaimed by jungle but the town transformed into a nice city with the infamous "Ho Chi Minh clock" still present. Based on his experience, he strongly recommends military service for young people needing structure and a path.

Episode 53 of Military Tales features Lieutenant Colonel Melvin Swanson, U.S. Air Force retired, recounting his diverse flying career that culminated in flying the A-1 Skyraider in Vietnam, specifically his time commanding OLAA at Danang. Swanson shares his path from an Iowa farm and initial enlistment as an electronics specialist to earning his pilot wings, volunteering for Vietnam, and deploying first to Nakhon Phanom (NKP), Thailand, where he flew against the Ho Chi Minh Trail and low-level Search and Rescue (SAR) missions as "Firefly". A pivotal transfer to Danang saw him leading an integrated "fighting package" flying very low altitude missions in direct support of Special Forces teams on the ground. He shares intense personal accounts, including the loss of comrades, the incredible survival of a pilot after a fiery crash, and a challenging night rescue that highlighted the profound impact of saving a life. Swanson expresses deep affection for the rugged, durable A-1 Skyraider, noting its ability to "take a licking and keep right on ticking" and deliver ordnance on target for extended periods, while emphasizing the high morale, integrated teamwork, and sheer bravery required for these demanding missions.

Drawing from our conversation and the provided transcript excerpts, Episode 52 of Military Tales offers an in-depth look at the USAF Search and Rescue (SAR) Task Force in Southeast Asia, focusing specifically on the aircraft and the firsthand experiences of the crews who flew them. This installment delves into the vital roles of the iconic A-1 Skyraider ("Sandy"), detailing its use from the early days under a pretense of pilot training to providing critical low-altitude support for rescues, and the HC-130 King Bird ("King"), which served as the indispensable Airborne Mission Commander and provided crucial aerial refueling for the Jolly Green helicopters. Hear accounts of the integrated nature of these complex missions, involving Sandys, Kings, Jollys, and other support aircraft, and the profound personal impact felt by crews who recovered downed comrades, a result described as having a "lifelong impact" and providing powerful motivation. From navigating early challenges and evolving tactics to participating in notable events like the "great Easter egg hunt of 1972," this episode shares the stories of bravery and dedication that shaped modern personnel recovery doctrine.

Get ready for a deep dive into the harrowing world of air rescue in Southeast Asia with Episode 51 of Military Tales. This episode steps beyond dry history to bring you the personal, firsthand accounts of those who lived the missions, including Sandy pilots, Jolly Green drivers, those who were rescued, and Raven Forward Air Controllers. Hear how SAR forces in Southeast Asia achieved the astounding feat of pulling over 4,000 people out of the jungle, a capability revolutionary compared to previous wars. The discussion covers the evolution from SAR to CSAR and modern Personnel Recovery (PR) doctrine, built on the lessons learned "the hard way" in this theater. Explore the core elements of a rescue mission—Report, Locate, Support, and Recover—and the integrated effort involving various Air Force, Navy, Army, Air America, and MACV SOG assets. A significant focus is placed on the often-overlooked role of Laos, its strategic importance concerning the Ho Chi Minh Trail, and the unique, covert operations of the Raven FACs who flew there. Discover how the experiences and sacrifices of these crews laid the foundation for modern personnel recovery practices.

Military Tales Episode 50 takes you behind the flight line at Nakhon Phanom RTAFB, Thailand in 1974-75, offering a ground-level perspective from jet engine mechanic Fred McClary. Experience the intensity of prepping helicopters for the secretive Mayaguez incident and the chilling return of aircraft carrying "body bags," including what were tragically described as "little body bags". Fred recounts the brutal environmental conditions – extreme heat, "unbelievable dust," and pervasive smells – and shares his belief of significant exposure to Agent Orange, which he attributes to many ongoing health problems. Delve into the base's deep compartmentalization and the shadowy world of SR-71 and U-2 spy plane operations from Udorn, highlighting the secrecy surrounding these operations. This episode provides a candid look at life on a busy, yet highly compartmentalized, base, including Fred's act of kindness at the Thai "Monkey House" jail where prisoners were not fed.

Here is a short podcast description for Episode 49: In Episode 49 of Military Tales, we hear from Jack Pollard about his experiences in the U.S. Air Force as a jet engine mechanic during the Vietnam War era, serving at Nakhon Phanom (NKP), Thailand, from 1970 to 1971. Jack details his arrival at NKP, his work maintaining a diverse fleet of aircraft including helicopters and gunships in the 56th Equipment Maintenance Squadron, and the crucial role of ground crews in supporting missions, particularly Search and Recovery (SAR) efforts. He shares poignant memories, from boosting morale at the squadron bar "the hole in the wall" to witnessing an F-105 crash and the tragic loss of his friend, Sergeant William Ripley. Jack also discusses his subsequent Air Force assignments, his transition back to civilian life, and his long career in law enforcement, reflecting on how his military service prepared him for that path and offering insights into the differences between the Air Force and other branches during that period, especially highlighting the bravery of helicopter crews.

Step behind the lines in Military Tales Episode 48 as we explore the incredible Son Tay Prison Raid, or Operation Ivory Coast. Featuring a veteran raider, this episode recounts an all-volunteer mission where the odds were stark: a "50 50 chance of not making it back" and the likelihood of "pretty much sudden death" if captured. Though the POWs had been moved from Son Tay, hear how this operation, born from the resolve of "no man left behind", became a "huge success" from the prisoners' perspective by forcing their consolidation, boosting morale, and establishing vital communication networks. Learn about the rigorous training, the risks near Hanoi, and the mission's lasting legacy.

This episode of Military Tales dives into the unique world of Nakhon Phanom, Thailand (NKP), during the Vietnam War, featuring C-123K Crew Chief Dan Pierce and Loadmaster/Flare Kicker Mike Seitz. They share their experiences serving at the remote, top-secret, and highly compartmentalized base from 1970 to 1971, detailing the perilous "Candlestick" missions flying C-123K aircraft at night over the Ho Chi Minh trail and Northern Laos to provide critical illumination with powerful flares and spot targets for fighters while facing the constant threat of anti-aircraft fire. The veterans also reflect on the isolation of their duty, confronting the dangers at 12,000 feet, the difficult transition back home, and the enduring bonds found decades later through reconnecting with fellow NKP veterans.

This episode of Military Tales, "Inside EC-47 Missions: The Secret Vietnam War Flights," features veteran pilot Doug Davis who served in the Vietnam War flying the EC-47, affectionately known as the "Gooney Bird". Davis reveals the nature of these at-the-time highly classified electronic intelligence missions out of Nakhon Phanom (NKP), Thailand, where they flew Air Force Security Service personnel over Laos to monitor enemy radios and perform Direction Finding to locate North Vietnamese troops, who numbered 50,000 to 60,000 in Laos. He discusses the operational realities, including flying at 10,000 feet due to the lack of oxygen, the constant threat of anti-aircraft guns, and the vital but often unknown role they played in supporting forces on the ground. Davis also shares experiences flying unmarked C-47s from Air America's ramp at Udorn and reflects on the unique, often isolated, nature of their missions.

This episode of Military Tales takes you inside the cockpit of the iconic F-4 Phantom with Colonel John Mollison, a highly decorated Vietnam War veteran and proud alumnus of Boys Town, as his story is featured in the film "Who's the Guy in Back." Colonel Mollison shares how his time at Boys Town provided the foundation that shaped his life and military career, including his pivotal role as a Weapons Systems Officer (WSO) or "guy in back". He recounts harrowing combat experiences, like a dangerous low-altitude smoke deployment mission during Lam Son 719 that earned him one of his three Distinguished Flying Crosses (DFCs), discussing the vital teamwork and accountability required in the F-4. From navigating complex systems and enduring G-forces to reflecting on the lessons learned in challenging circumstances, Colonel Mollison offers a powerful perspective on courage, resilience, and the enduring impact of mentorship, concluding with insightful advice for the Boys Town youth.

This episode of Military Tales features George Marrett, a former test pilot who, initially disappointed by his Vietnam assignment to the propeller-driven A-1 Skyraider, discovered the profound importance of his role. Recounting his journey from strike missions out of Udorn Royal Thai Air Base to critical Search and Rescue (SAR) operations from the austere Nakhon Phanom (NKP), Marrett shares a gripping account of his harrowing first major SAR mission to rescue Navy pilot Kenny Fields (call sign Streetcar 304) in the notoriously dangerous Chapon area. This multi-day effort involved 189 sorties and resulted in the loss of seven planes, saw the loss of multiple aircraft, and the capture of his lead, Ed Leonard (Sandy 7), but ultimately resulted in a successful pickup, forging intense, lifelong bonds between the rescued, the captured, and the rescuer, leading to the formation of the Combat Search and Rescue (CSAR) Society. Marrett reflects on how his unexpected A-1 assignment became the "best assignment", the deep camaraderie of the Sandy pilots, and the lessons learned about courage, resilience, and finding meaning even in unexpected circumstances, a story vividly told in his memoir, "Cheating Death".

People: Merrit, George

Aircraft: F-101 Voodoo, F-104 Starfighter, F-111 Aardvark, F-4 Phantom II, F-5 Tiger

This episode of Military Tales, recorded during "Jim Wold Day 2015," is a tribute to Lt. Col. Jim Wold and the extraordinary "secret" unit he commanded, featuring personal stories from veterans and his family. Operating the A-1 Skyraider ("tail Dragon Beast") out of a "secret door" in Laos and Cambodia, this unit supported highly classified MACV-SOG teams and was sworn to the same strict secrecy standards. Veterans share vivid accounts of flying demanding close air support and vital Search and Rescue (SAR) missions, often operating dangerously low "in the weeds," underscoring their reliance on the critical support from their armors and maintenance crews. They recount harrowing experiences and the risks involved, including a perilous rescue of a downed A-4 pilot in the notorious Chapon area, a mission Jim Wold himself reportedly led while ill. The conversation highlights the powerful camaraderie and "little Band of Brothers" atmosphere fostered by Wold, and the deep pride members held in their crucial, albeit often unseen, low-level missions, considering their work something "worth dying for" despite the unit experiencing losses.

This episode of Military Tales features a conversation with Lt. Col. Lucky Lowman (Wallace), a veteran pilot whose extensive career began in 1943 during World War II and spanned over 30 years including reserve time. Lucky, who is now 98 years old, recounts his experiences flying iconic aircraft like the P-51 Mustang in Europe, where he flew 52 missions escorting B-17s and B-24s and witnessed the loss of friends. His post-WWII active duty included flying F-102s in the Philippines, being on alert during the Gulf of Tonkin incident, piloting F-104s in West Texas from which he had a "perfect ejection" at 11,000 feet, and a challenging deployment taking F-104s to Jordan, interacting with King Hussein. Later, in Southeast Asia, he transitioned to the A-1 Skyraider, commanding the "Fireflies" squadron. He describes the A-1 as a heavy but responsive plane that could take punishment and highlights his crucial role in Search and Rescue (SAR) missions (the "Sandy role"), participating in significant rescues like Boxer 22 and experiencing the "terrific feeling" of bringing downed airmen back safely. Lucky reflects on his deep bond with the younger pilots under his command, whom he affectionately called "my boys" and who often saw him as a "second father," crediting him with their flying skills. His long flying career ended when he was grounded as a "non-essential pilot," leading to immediate retirement.

People: Lowman, Lucky

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, F-102 Delta Dagger, F-104 Starfighter, P-51 Mustang

This episode of Military Tales delves into the experiences of three ground crew veterans, Paul Ederling, Ernie Harmon, and Barry Roland, who served as weapons loaders (462s) at the remote Nakhon Phanom (NKP) Royal Thai Air Base, described as a "secret" place "carved out of nothing" and "the end of the world". They recount their demanding jobs, working 12-hour shifts, often seven days a week, loading and maintaining a variety of aircraft, primarily the A-1 Skyraider, with everything from hand-loaded smaller ordnance to 2000lb bombs. The veterans share harrowing stories of dangerous incidents including accidental gun firings, a flare detonation that nearly ignited napalm, and the constant threat of sapper or rocket attacks. They also reflect on the sadness of losing pilots, whom they supported directly, and the difficult, often hostile reception they faced upon returning home to the US. Despite the challenges and lingering regrets like not keeping journals, they emphasize the unique camaraderie among veterans and the importance of reconnecting and sharing their crucial, albeit often unseen, role in the air war.

This episode of Military Tales, titled "The Men Who Flew And Fought For the South Vietnam Airforce," features a moving conversation with three veterans of the South Vietnamese Air Force (VNAF): Song, Tywin (Ty), and Chow (Children). They recount joining the VNAF around 1963, training in the US at bases like Lakeland and Randolph, and flying a variety of aircraft including the T28, A1 Skyraider, A37, U6, and extensively the F5, accumulating thousands of combat hours. Ty shares a dramatic story of being shot down near Saigon in 1967 and his ingenious rescue by a US helicopter gunner who used red smoke to scatter the Viet Cong. The veterans describe the chaotic final days in April 1975, marked by a severe lack of clear orders, rocket attacks on bases, and commanders telling men to go home, forcing them to prioritize their families' safety and execute desperate escapes – from sending families by helicopter or C7 Caribou to Con Son and U-Tapao, to Chow's incredible flight in a single-seat F5 packed with a security guard. While expressing deep resentment towards US military leadership, especially the Air Force, for perceived abandonment and a lack of planning, feeling their efforts were undermined by politics and resource shortages, they convey immense gratitude for the "life jacket" thrown to them by individual Americans and communities upon their arrival in the US, providing food, shelter, and assistance with jobs and transportation. Sharing these painful memories, they also reflect on the importance of learning from history, are not proud of having "run away" but acknowledge it was necessary for survival, and express fear, seeing alarming similarities between the collapse in 1975 and current events in the US.

Episode 39 of "Military Tales" delves into the extraordinary and often unconventional careers of veteran pilots Jack Drummond and Roger Youngblood during the Vietnam era. Listen as Jack shares his journey from a West Texas cotton farm to unexpected assignments, including flying C-130s and hunting trucks over Laos, while Roger recounts his determined path to flying the A-1 Skyraider, the "last recip fighter". The episode culminates with their incredible, audacious mission to retrieve 11 A-1 Skyraiders submerged in a ditch at Utapao, Thailand, facing challenges like monsoon rains, no checklists, and wet parachutes to fly out four functional aircraft. Discover the surprising fate of these planes years later and the profound influence of leadership figures like General Aderholt, alongside the pilots' powerful reflections on the vital role of faith in protecting them through dangerous times. This episode offers a compelling look at unsung heroes and the unique experiences shaped by navigating pivotal moments.

Episode 38 of "Military Tales" features Warren "Doc" Blanchard, an A-1 Skyraider pilot during the Vietnam War. Doc details his experience with the 6th Special Operations Squadron and the unique, short-lived Operating Location Alpha (OLA) at Da Nang. Learn how OLA's eight A-1s were established by Pentagon directive to provide critical close air support for highly secretive Army Studies and Observations Group (SOG) teams operating deep inside Laos. Doc recounts the challenges of supporting these "Prairie Fire" emergency missions, which often required flying at extremely low altitudes and dropping ordnance dangerously close to friendly forces to push back overwhelming enemy waves. Hear about the constant "Alpha alert" readiness, participation in Search and Rescue (SAR) missions where Doc's A-1 was hit by enemy fire, and the close bonds formed with rescue crews at the "Doom Club". Doc shares his reflections on the dedication of the pilots, the "no hesitation" to save lives, and the mixed feelings about the political outcomes, ultimately emphasizing the core mission of saving American lives.

People: Blanchard, Warren - Doc

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider

In "Military Tales" Episode 37, meet Stan Nelson, a retired Air Force Senior Master Sergeant and HH-53 "Super Jolly" helicopter flight engineer. Stan recounts his incredible journey from balloon recovery to harrowing combat search and rescue missions with the 40th Aerospace Rescue Recovery Squadron in Southeast Asia. Based in Thailand, he flew crucial support for Studies and Observations Group (SOG) teams and other downed airmen, performing perilous hoist operations over towering triple canopy jungles while facing intense enemy fire in notorious areas like McGea Pass. Stan shares gripping accounts, including his HH-53 taking 57 hits on one mission, rescuing crews during the high-speed Laredo mission, involvement in preparing aircraft for the Son Tay Raid, and the long-term impact of PTSD, emphasizing the vital role of rescue crews in saving American lives.

Aircraft: HH-43 Pedro, HH-53, HH-53C

Units: 1110th Balloon Activity Squadron, 40th Aerospace Rescue Recovery Squadron

In "Military Tales" Episode 36, we hear from retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Mike Steger, who shares his diverse aviation career, from flying T-6s and F-84s to teaching math at the Air Force Academy. Steger volunteered for Vietnam, expecting T-28s but transitioning to the A-1 Skyraider, ultimately serving as an advisor and instructor pilot with the 520th VNAF Squadron at Tuy Hoa. He details building the squadron and developing a combat syllabus to train new South Vietnamese pilots on the challenging, torque-heavy A-1E and the two-place "Fat Face" model, covering tactics like bombing, strafing, and napalm delivery, and emphasizing crucial instrument training and GCA approaches. Steger speaks highly of the skill of some VNAF pilots, including one with an incredible 9,000 hours of combat time, and recounts flying close air support missions, including a perilous strafing run just 10 yards from friendly vehicles. He shares two gripping survival stories: a unique water landing of his A-1 after engine failure, where he almost drowned due to his heavy gear but was saved by his Mae West life preserver, and an earlier harrowing ejection from an F-84 at 27,000 feet in Germany. Despite the challenges, Steger expresses his affection for the A-1 and would "go back and do it all over again," reflecting on the mutual respect and dedication shared with the VNAF pilots.

People: Steiger, Mike

Units: 520 VNAF

In Military Tales Episode 35, retired Air Force Colonel Lee "Mazz" Mazzarella recounts his experiences flying the iconic A-1 Skyraider, or "Spad", in 1972 with the 1st Special Operations Squadron based at Nakhon Phanom, Thailand. Mazz, who flew various aircraft including F-4s and transports before volunteering for the A-1, shares vivid details of flying combat missions primarily over Laos. He describes the challenges of locating and bombing targets hidden beneath dense jungle canopy, looking for secondary explosions, and the intensity of flying close air support for "Troops in Contact", including one mission where he dropped ordnance within 50 meters of friendly positions. Mazz also shares gripping accounts of his Sandy missions supporting Combat Search and Rescue efforts, notably a perilous rescue near Danang where his aircraft and his wingman's took multiple hits from small arms fire, and they narrowly avoided a shoulder-mounted missile. He touches on navigation using visual "Delta Points" and reveals the story behind his unique sterling silver escape and evasion bracelet. Mazz's interview offers an insightful look into the demanding missions of the A-1 Skyraider pilots in Vietnam, highlighting their bravery and dedication to their comrades.

Tune in to "Military Tales" for a special evening with Brigadier General Jim McDivitt, one of America's greats, who shares captivating stories from his extraordinary career. Starting as a fighter pilot flying F-80s and F-86s during the Korean War, enduring the extreme cold and flying numerous combat missions, McDivitt later became a test pilot and then an astronaut. Hear firsthand accounts of commanding Gemini 4, including the challenges of opening the hatch and the historic spacewalk. He also discusses his pivotal role as the Apollo Program Manager, navigating the terrifying emergency of Apollo 13, the risks of space travel, and personal reflections on his unique journey. This episode offers insightful and candid perspectives from a true pioneer of both aerial combat and space exploration.

Tune in to "Military Tales" for a powerful episode, "Low Level History," featuring a rare discussion with three Vietnam War Aero Scouts: Gary Worthy, Bruce Huffman, and Hugh Mills. Hear their incredible, often-untold stories of flying dangerously low and slow in the OH-6 Loach helicopter to reconnoiter enemy forces and manage combat resources on the battlefield. Gary Worthy recounts being shot down in his Loach, surviving a severe wound thanks to his body armor and the helicopter's resilience, an event that motivated him to preserve this history. Bruce Huffman describes the vital teamwork within the cockpit and shares the harrowing mission that earned him a Distinguished Flying Cross. Hugh Mills details the unique skills of being an aerial "combat tracker," flying just feet off the ground, and shares reflections on his poignant meeting with the North Vietnamese soldiers he once fought. This episode offers insightful, candid perspectives on the challenges, skills, and lasting impact of these vital but often overlooked Vietnam veterans, emphasizing the importance of understanding their sacrifice and legacy.

Tune in to "Military Tales" for "Wives Tales," featuring a rare conversation with Pat Doolittle, Ann Kelly, and Lynn Roulston, who share their experiences as wives of A-1 Skyraider pilots. Discover the unique "sisterhood" they formed, built on shared history, common events, and mutual understanding that allowed them to pick up right where they left off even after years apart. Hear candid accounts of navigating constant moves, supporting flexible, outgoing military kids, and managing husbands' absences with limited communication, while having deep trust in their piloting skills and the passion for flying. They reflect on the historical role of military wives, the humility of their pilot husbands who rarely discussed dangerous missions, and the incredible, often unmatched, community support found within the military compared to civilian life. This episode offers a powerful perspective on the resilience, challenges, and enduring bonds of the women who served as the vital "tail of the plane," keeping things straight for their families and their A-1 pilots.

Episode 31 of "Military Tales" delves into the extraordinary true account known as the Pardo Push, a remarkable feat performed on March 10, 1967, near Hanoi. Hear from pilot Bob Pardo as he describes the mission bombing a heavily defended steel mill and the moment a fellow F-4 Phantom was critically damaged by intense ground fire, leaving it with insufficient fuel to escape North Vietnam. Faced with his comrades' almost certain capture, Pardo made the audacious and incredibly dangerous decision to position his own F-4 and use the fairing in front of his armored windscreen to push the disabled jet by its lowered tail hook, guiding it towards the Laotian border. Discover the perilous details of this mid-air push, the successful ejection and rescue of all four airmen, the initial threat of a court-martial, Colonel Robin Olds' crucial intervention, and how, 22 years later, Pardo and his backseater Steve Wayne were finally awarded the Silver Star for this act that went "way past the call of military duty".

Episode 30 of "Military Tales" takes listeners deep underground to explore the vital, often unseen, world of the missileers, featuring guest Major General Robert Parker, a two-star general, former head of the 20th Air Force, and an expert on the Soviet military. Delve into the realities of growing up during the Cold War, the concept of Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) as a stabilizing factor, and the technical details of the Minuteman missile system, including its solid fuel and rapid launch capability. Understand the rigorous safeguards in place, requiring a minimum of four individuals across multiple underground locations to initiate a launch, and hear about the immense responsibility placed on young airmen. This episode highlights why missileers are considered "unsung heroes" and how their constant readiness serves as the greatest weapon ever used – not through being fired, but as a powerful, ever-present deterrent to aggression.

People: Mollison John, Parker Robert

Units: 20th Air Force

Topics: Nuclear Deterrence, Old Guys and Their Airplanes

Join us for Episode 29 as we delve into the remarkable story of John C. Waldron, a Navy fighter pilot and combat aviator who was a pivotal figure in the TBD Devastator. A 41-year-old "old man" by combat aviation standards, Waldron was part Native American Lakota from South Dakota, embodying the Lakota virtue of being "generous with your life" and the concept of "don't try and live, you might disgrace yourself". At Midway, a battle critical for "chopp[ing] off Japan's unbroken string of victories", the Hornet air group flew in the wrong direction; Waldron, the senior and most experienced squadron commander despite Navy "cronyism", recognized the error and, with his men's "complete confidence", made a dramatic turn, famously declaring, "This is Johnny one, we're going where the carriers are". Leading his slow TBD Devastator squadron against faster, superior Zeroes, Waldron knew his probability of survival was low and instructed his pilots, "if there's only one man left I want him to go in and get a hit"; indeed, only one man survived. His story exemplifies the unique bravery of older warriors who understand the cost, highlighting how focusing on the job, responsibility, and bigger mission transcends fear and ego, leading to the practical beginnings of heroic deeds that forge a legend who "live[s] forever".

People: Mollison John, Waldron John

Aircraft: TBD Devastator

Topics: Battle Of Midway, Old Guys and Their Airplanes, WWII

In Episode 28 of American Warrior Radio's "Old Guys on the Airplanes" series, we feature Charlie Plumb, a Navy fighter pilot and Naval Academy graduate who became a Prisoner of War (POW) in Vietnam, held from 1967 to 1973. Shot down near Hanoi, known as the "most heavily defended city in the world," Charlie endured years of captivity where the Vietnamese did not adhere to the Geneva Convention. He shares his experience of surviving torture by establishing "plateaus of pain" and never believing he would die, convinced that "adversity is a horrible thing to waste". Learn about the amazing communication system developed by POWs to stay connected. The episode culminates with Charlie's emotional return trip to Vietnam in 2015, including a meeting with his former prison commandant, whose claims of humane treatment Charlie found to be "five or six major lies". Charlie reflects on the value of the experience, how it made him a better person, and the importance of forgiveness as a "survival issue", concluding with the powerful insight that the smallest prison cell is "the eight inches between your ears".

People: Mollison John, Plumb Charlie

Aircraft: F-4 Phantom II

Topics: Hanoi Hilton, Prisoner of War

Episode 27: "The Unchained Eagle" In this episode of American Warrior Radio, Vietnam veteran and former POW Colonel Robert Certain shares his harrowing experience as a B-52 navigator shot down during Operation Linebacker II, his time in the Hanoi Hilton, and his journey from war to healing. From surviving enemy fire to becoming an Episcopal priest, Colonel Certain offers powerful insights on trauma, resilience, and the true cost of war.

People: Certain Robert, Mollison John

Aircraft: B-52 Stratofortress

Topics: Hanoi Hilton, Old Guys and Their Airplanes, Prisoner of War

Episode 26: The Gentleman Next Door – The John Wilkinson Story What if the quiet, kind man next door turned out to be a WWII fighter ace with a front-row seat to history? In this moving episode of American Warrior Radio, host Bruce Huffman introduces us to John Wilkinson, a man whose gentle demeanor masked a life of courage, combat, and witness to humanity’s darkest hours. A British pilot trained in America, John took to the skies in a Spitfire, becoming one with the aircraft he could “toss around like a toy.” From dogfights and strafing missions to shooting down a V1 “doodlebug” rocket, John displayed deadly precision in the cockpit. Whether it was hitting the boiler of a German train or taking out enemy officers in a speeding staff car, he was a marksman and a warrior—but also a man who carried knives and silk maps not for glory, but to survive crash landings and stay alive. After the war, John would be stationed near Bergen-Belsen, where he saw firsthand the horrors of the Holocaust. The sight of starving, skeletal prisoners haunted him and forever changed how he viewed life, war, and duty. Despite his combat record, John remained humble and soft-spoken. He rarely discussed the stress or danger with fellow pilots, a quiet resilience that defined his generation. Looking back, he simply said his life was “well lived.” This episode is more than a war story—it's a reminder that history lives all around us, often disguised in the people we least expect. As Huffman puts it, “When an old man dies, a library burns.” So ask questions. Listen deeply. You never know when you might be talking to an aerial knight.

People: Mollison John, Wilkinson John - RAF

Aircraft: Supermarine Spitfire

Units: 41st Squadron - Royal Air Force

Topics: Old Guys and Their Airplanes, WWII

In this extraordinary episode of *American Warrior Radio*, we meet **Steve Pisanos**—a Greek-born immigrant whose passion for flight and unwavering determination made him a **highly decorated American ace**, a test pilot, and a global ambassador of freedom. Presented by **Bruce Huffman** of the Distinguished Flying Cross Society, Steve’s story begins in Athens, where a 13-year-old boy watched a biplane twist through the sky and decided he was born to fly. His journey would take him from **illegal immigrant in New York City** to **Royal Air Force pilot**, to becoming the **first person in U.S. history naturalized as a citizen outside the continental United States**—all before the war was over. Steve flew **Spitfires, P-47s, and P-51 Mustangs**, scoring **10 confirmed victories** before being shot down over France. Evading capture with the help of the **French Resistance**, he fought alongside them in underground operations. For his bravery, he was awarded France’s **Legion of Honor**. After the war, he continued his service as a **test pilot** and was later selected to lead the U.S. Air Force Mission to Greece—where he helped secure a major victory for U.S. foreign policy and aircraft sales during the Cold War. At every stage, Steve’s life was defined by **grit, gratitude, and an unshakable belief in freedom**. His story isn’t just about aerial combat—it’s about the mettle it takes to leave everything behind and chase something bigger than yourself.

People: Mollison John, Pisanos Steve

Aircraft: F-102 Delta Dagger, P-47 Thunderbolt, P-51 Mustang, Supermarine Spitfire

Units: Eagle Squadron -Royal Air Force (RAF)

Topics: Old Guys and Their Airplanes, WWII

**Episode 24: Sweet Marlene and the Skyraider Spirit** In this compelling episode of *American Warrior Radio*, Vietnam War veteran **Richard “Rich” Hall** recounts his journey as an **A-1 Skyraider pilot**—and the bond he formed with his aircraft, “**Sweet Marlene**,” named after his wife. Through stories of daring rescue missions, air-to-ground combat, and intense psychological strain, Rich offers a raw, honest account of a war often misunderstood at home. Rich reflects on the deep contradictions of the conflict: the sense of purpose and camaraderie in the cockpit contrasted with the political restraints and secrecy imposed by leadership. His missions as a **“Sandy” pilot**—flying cover for downed airmen—were acts of pure courage and responsibility. Yet even in the chaos of war, he found moments of clarity, honor, and quiet connection with the plane that “treated him well.” He shares the personal toll of killing in combat, the emotional aftermath that lingered for decades, and the hard truth many veterans discovered: they were never quite the same. But Rich also shines a light on resilience, love, and the belief that **freedom is always worth defending**. This episode is a tribute to the Skyraider spirit, the power of love—both for family and country—and the complexity of coming home from war.

People: Hall Richard "Rich", Mollison John

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, F-100 Super Sabre, F-101 Voodoo

Units: 602nd Fighter Squadron

Topics: CSAR - Combat Search And Rescue, Old Guys and Their Airplanes, Prairie Fire, SAR - Search and Rescue, Troops in Contact

In this deeply moving episode of *American Warrior Radio*, we meet **Chris Morgan**, a World War II fighter pilot whose dream of flying quickly spiraled into a nightmare on his very first combat mission. Shot down over Burma, captured by the Japanese, and imprisoned for two grueling years, Chris shares a story not only of survival—but of transformation. Through jungle escapes, brutal treatment, and near-starvation, Chris reveals how a powerful shift from self-preservation to compassion helped him endure. He reflects on the trauma of war, the strength of the human will, and the healing influence of **love**, especially the life-changing support of his wife, **Connie**, whom he calls the most powerful positive force in his life. From youthful dreams and wartime horrors to postwar struggles and ultimate redemption, this episode explores two profound truths: the will to live, and the enduring strength of human connection.

People: Mollison John, Morgan Chris

Aircraft: B-17 Flying Fortress

Units: 311th Fighter Bomber Group

Topics: Old Guys and Their Airplanes, Prisoner of War, WWII

In this unforgettable episode of American Warrior Radio, 98-year-old World War II veteran Colonel Richard Bouchong recounts the harrowing story of his last combat mission in a B-17 Flying Fortress over Nazi Germany. Facing devastating flak, engine failures, and frozen windshields, Bouchong managed to bring his crippled aircraft—and entire crew—safely home against impossible odds. Listeners will hear firsthand about the mission to bomb a Messerschmitt factory in Augsburg, the chaos of being forced out of formation, and a dramatic landing without brakes that ended with a desperate ground loop into English mud. The story of the “Bell of the Brawl” is both thrilling and sobering—especially when we learn the plane was later shot down, killing most of the replacement crew. Colonel Bouchong reflects on leadership, duty, and the generation forged by the Great Depression and World War II. Featuring commentary from aviation artist John Mollison, this episode is a powerful tribute to resilience, skill, and the importance of remembering those who flew into history.

People: Bouchong Richard, Mollison John

Aircraft: B-17 Flying Fortress

Topics: Old Guys and Their Airplanes

In this gripping episode of *Military Tales*, we recount one of the most daring combat search and rescue (CSAR) missions of the Vietnam War — the "Silver Bar SAR." Named for the four A-1 Sandy pilots, all first lieutenants wearing the silver bars of their rank, this mission unfolded in the treacherous karst mountains of southern North Vietnam near Dong Hoi. The objective: rescue Captain Woody Clark, the backseater of a downed RF-4 reconnaissance jet, stranded for days in rugged, enemy-held terrain. Facing deadly surface-to-air missiles, hostile MiG bases, relentless ground fire, and dangerously poor weather, the CSAR team — including Jolly Green helicopters, Sandy A-1s, and a Pave Nail OV-10 — executed a daring, low-level infiltration through Mu Gia Pass to bring Woody home. Listen as we break down the tense moments: SAM launches, near-misses in mountainous cloud cover, a last-minute sighting, and Woody Clark’s unforgettable reaction: *“God damn, that’s a Sandy!”* This story is a tribute to the grit, courage, and coordination of the crews who risked everything to never leave a fellow airman behind.

People: Blevins David, Carlson, Bob, Clark Woody, Smith Lamar

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, F-4 Phantom II

Units: 1st SOS, Pave Nail OV-10

Topics: CSAR - Combat Search And Rescue, SAR - Search and Rescue

Join us on Military Tales Episode 20 as we hear from retired Captain **Donald W. Dunaway**, known as "Doc". Doc describes his year in Southeast Asia (1968-1969) focusing on **Combat Search and Rescue (SAR)**, calling it the **"epitome of military service"** and stating there is **"no higher calling"**. As part of the volunteer **602nd Sandys** at NKP, Thailand, Doc flew the **A-1 Skyraider**, supporting **Jolly Green helicopters** with the motto **"That others may live"**. Hear Doc's gripping account of a mission to rescue Pete Morris, facing **heavy fire**, running low on fuel, finding **nine bullet holes** in his plane, and witnessing a rescue helicopter crash after being hit by **37mm fire**, tragically injuring a **Pararescue Jumper (PJ)**. Discover the unique NKP Officers Club tradition of throwing successful rescue crews **over the bar**. Despite his wife still giving him a hard time for volunteering, Doc is proud of this gratifying work.

People: Dunaway Donald W. - "Doc"

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider

Units: 602nd Fighter Squadron

In a heartfelt first for *Military Tales*, Episode 19 features **Jim and Michelle**, the podcast’s first married couple, as they share their intertwined journey through love, war, and resilience. From meeting at Arizona State University to navigating 13 moves in nine years, they paint a vivid portrait of military life both in and out of uniform. Jim recounts flying the **A-1 Skyraider** on high-stakes missions over Southeast Asia—Search and Rescue, armed reconnaissance, night interdiction—while Michelle opens up about the often overlooked challenges faced by military spouses during Vietnam, from harassment and isolation to silent strength. Their daily letters, cassette tapes, and enduring teamwork—“a lead and a wingman”—held them together across continents. The episode builds to a moving moment when a stranger at the airport thanks Jim for helping save the woman who would become his wife, tying Jim’s wartime service to another family’s survival. With reflections on duty, sacrifice, and the unbreakable bond among veterans and their families, this episode is a powerful tribute to love and loyalty, both in the skies and on the home front.

People: Bender Michelle, Bender, James "Jink"

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider

Topics: Military Wife, SAR - Search and Rescue

In Episode 18 of *Military Tales*, we meet A-1 Skyraider pilot **Gordon “Gordy” Fornell**, whose year in Southeast Asia (1968–1969) saw him fly over 200 combat missions and log more than 800 hours over Laos and the Ho Chi Minh Trail. A test pilot turned combat aviator, Gordy reflects on his time with the **1st Special Operations Squadron (Hobos)** and as one of the original members of the **Zorros**, a small team tasked with supporting General Vang Pao’s fight in northern Laos. He recounts flying **night missions**, acting as his own FAC, and dropping napalm and CBUs on enemy trucks—all while living out of a refrigerator truck in the early days. This episode explores the intense camaraderie of combat units, the distinct identity of the Zorros, and the unmatched satisfaction of supporting Special Forces and rescuing lives. From party suits to Prairie Fire missions, this is the story of a pilot who found both purpose and lifelong brotherhood in the skies over Southeast Asia.

People: Fornell, Gordon - Gordy

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, B-52 Stratofortress

Units: 1st SOS, 22nd SOS - Zorro's- Special Operations Squadron

Topics: SAR - Search and Rescue, Troops in Contact

Episode 17 of *Military Tales* recounts a breathtaking two-day Search and Rescue (SAR) operation in June 1972, where two A-1 Skyraider pilots, Byron Hookey and Tim Brady, helped rescue not one but **two downed pilots** in the deadly A Shau Valley. The mission began with an attempt to recover Navy pilot Nickel 102 but quickly escalated when fellow Sandy pilot Captain Larry Highfill (Sandy 77) was shot down. What followed was a high-stakes, nonstop effort involving ground fire, AAA, thunderstorms, and low-fuel emergencies. The episode details close air support, night holds, and a tense engine failure—all culminating in **a rare double pickup**. With gripping detail and heartfelt reflection, Byron and Tim share what it took to pull it off—and what it felt like to bring their brothers home.

People: Brady, Tim, Hukee, Bryon

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, F-8 Crusader, HH-53

Units: 1st SOS, Nail FAC (Forward Air Controller)

Topics: Nickel 102

Episode 16 of *Military Tales* tackles a powerful and personal question: what defines true courage in combat? Prompted by the memoir *When Thunder Rolled*, this episode explores the contrasting experiences of pilots during the Vietnam War—those who felt fear but overcame it, and those who charged ahead seemingly without it. The host reflects on the spectrum of fear and fortitude he witnessed in fellow airmen, particularly within his own Special Operations “Sandy” unit. At the heart of the episode is the gripping story of the Knife 61/62 rescue mission on October 6, 1969, where under intense enemy fire, a coordinated effort involving Air Commandos, Super Jolly helicopters, and fast movers pulled 54 people from certain death. With vivid recollections of close-in strafing, smoke screens, and mutual respect between pilots and ground operators, this episode honors not just battlefield valor, but the emotional courage required to talk about it decades later.

People: George, Jim

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, F-105 Thunderchief

Units: 56th SOW OLAA

Topics: CSAR - Combat Search And Rescue, Knife 61/62, SAR - Search and Rescue

In Episode 15 of *Military Tales*, we meet Don Campbell, a veteran F-100 Super Sabre pilot whose journey from flying lumbering tankers to sleek single-seat jet fighters captures the tenacity and spirit of Cold War-era airmen. Don shares his path from a teenage farm kid buzzing fields in Ohio to a combat-tested pilot flying Troops in Contact missions in Vietnam with the 510th Tactical Fighter Squadron—the “Buzzards.” Along the way, he recounts flying KC-97s and KC-135s during tense Strategic Air Command assignments, his long-awaited transition to fighters, and intense missions supporting ground troops in the jungle. With vivid stories of napalm drops, afterburner runs to save pinned-down soldiers, and a thrilling return to the F-100 cockpit decades later, Don reflects on a life shaped by aviation, baseball, and even sports car racing. It’s an episode full of grit, gratitude, and the pure joy of flight.

People: Campbell, Don

Aircraft: F-100 Super Sabre, F-105 Thunderchief, F-4 Phantom II, KC-135 Stratotanker, KC-97 Stratofreighter

Units: 510th Tactical Fighter Squadron

Episode 14 plunges listeners into the deadly skies above Mu Gia Pass, one of the most heavily defended areas of the Vietnam War, through the eyes of A-1 Skyraider “Sandy” pilots who risked everything in daring search and rescue (SAR) missions. Centered on the intense three-day Boxer 22 Bravo rescue, this episode follows the pilots as they battle fierce terrain, hidden enemy guns, and overwhelming ground fire in a desperate effort to save a downed F-4 crew. Listeners will hear firsthand how these slow, propeller-driven aircraft became lifelines in a valley filled with chaos flying low, dropping ordnance with precision, and orchestrating complex rescue efforts under impossible conditions. With vivid combat stories, technical insights into flying the rugged Skyraider, and reflections on leadership, brotherhood, and sacrifice, this episode captures the courage and camaraderie that defined these unsung heroes.

People: Bender, James "Jink", Bergeron Woodrow “Woodie”, Danielson Benjamin, George, Jim

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, F-4 Phantom II, HH-53

Units: 602nd Fighter Squadron, USAF 1st SOS - HOBO

Topics: Boxer 22, CSAR - Combat Search And Rescue

In Episode 13 of *Military Tales*, we meet Jules Wilbon Bernard—a WWII veteran with a lifelong love of aviation and stories as rich as the skies he worked under. From building model planes as a child in Louisiana to serving as a crew chief on B-17s, B-25s, and more across Europe and North Africa, Jules shares unforgettable memories from a mechanic’s point of view. Nicknamed “Bathless Bernard” after enduring weeks without a bath in the desert, he recounts moments of grit, humor, insubordination, and pride—including flying on every plane he rebuilt. Now in his 80s, Jules continues to inspire younger generations through his volunteer work at an aviation museum. His tales capture the wonder of flight, the trials of war, and the enduring spirit of a man who never lost sight of the skies.

People: Bernard, Jules W.

Aircraft: B-17 Flying Fortress

Units: 346th Bombardment Squadron

In Episode 12, a harrowing Vietnam War mission bridges decades and brings closure to a family long searching for answers. Special Operations team leader George Wilson Hunt recounts a dangerous MACV-SOG Bright Light mission to recover the remains of a downed A-1 Skyraider pilot. Facing enemy forces, rugged terrain, and uncertainty, George and his team risk everything to reach the crash site. Decades later, a chance discovery by the pilot’s nephew leads to an emotional reunion and a powerful connection between strangers bound by sacrifice. This episode reveals the enduring impact of combat, the strength of shared service, and the healing power of long-awaited answers.

People: Hunt, George - Wilson, Wolfkeil, Wayne B.

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider

Units: 6th SOS

Topics: Bright Light Missions, CSAR - Combat Search And Rescue, Troops in Contact

John Larrison recounts that early combat missions in the A-1 Skyraider involved a **"cover story"** where a Vietnamese airman who spoke no English was carried in the right seat. The purpose of this was that if the aircraft crashed, the headline would say that Larrison was training the Vietnamese pilot. Larrison notes that this practice was related to the government's decision to disregard the Geneva Conventions, which stated they would not introduce any modern weapons into Vietnam. They were looking for an airplane for this cover story, and the Navy A-1 was seen as **"not a modern weapon"** and was a two-seater, making it a perfect fit. Besides fitting the narrative, it was also a great air-to-ground airplane. This situation changed around **mid-1965** when F-100s entered the war; the "observers" were no longer needed, and the war escalated significantly, leading to changes in missions.

People: Larrison, John

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, HH-43 Pedro

Units: 602nd Fighter Squadron

Topics: SAR - Search and Rescue

Speaking about the A-1 Skyraider, Roger Youngblood shared a concept from another pilot that stuck with him: **"let her dance."** This referred to making **evasive maneuvers** when coming in for an attack or landing approach to avoid ground fire. He explained, **"you and her are dancing together she's with you you're with her you take care of her and she'll take care of you,"** adding that the A-1 **"got me home many times"**.

People: Youngblood, Roger

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, A-10 Warthog, A-7 Corsair

Units: USAF 1st SOS - HOBO

Topics: Escape To U-Tapao, Prairie Fire, Troops in Contact

Serving as a **Prairie Fire FAC**, the speaker was one of six Air Force FACs chosen by the MACV SOG teams to work directly with them. These **Special Forces recon teams**, made up of American forces and local personnel, were placed on the Ho Chi Minh Trail on the ground to verify intelligence and find out where the enemy was. Missions included **surveillance** or sometimes even **prisoner snatches**. Inserting these teams into hostile territory typically involved a **CH-53 helicopter always escorted by two or four A-1s** because they were the only reliable escort. If a team got into trouble, they would declare a **"Prairie Fire emergency,"** which would trigger a response from every air asset in Southeast Asia to try to get the team out. Extractions were often perilous, sometimes requiring teams to be pulled out on a **string** if the helicopter couldn't land.

People: Goldenbaum, John

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, OV-10

Units: USAF 1st SOS - HOBO

Topics: Troops in Contact

Bob Carlsen, an A-1 Skyraider pilot, spent 17 months flying missions. While he found the aircraft itself **"extremely challenging to fly and a beautiful airplane,"** he stated that his **"favorite thing about the job was how rewarding the mission was"**. He specifically pointed to their **"primary mission of search and rescue for downed pilots or crew members"** as what was **"to me, what was the most rewarding part of the job"**. It was a mission that clearly had a profound impact on him, as he added, **"I just get broken up sometimes even thinking about it"**.

People: Carlson, Bob

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider

Units: USAF 1st SOS - HOBO

Topics: Troops in Contact

Trapped underground in the Tactical Operations Center (TOC), five feet below ground with the generator and antennas destroyed, it was **pure black**. The NVA had blown a hole in the wall and were throwing in incendiary and white phosphorus grenades, as well as using a flamethrower. The inside was burning, filled with toxic smoke, making it hard to breathe. Facing this desperate situation, the speaker reflected, thinking, "**You people can stay down here and die like worms if you want to**". He resolved, "**I'm going up on top ground dog like a man**". He couldn't take being trapped anymore and decided to go out fighting, convincing the others to leave the bunker.

People: Cyrus, Ray, Kirk, Tim, Longgrear, Paul

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, UH-1 Huey

Units: ARMY MACV SOG

Topics: Lang Vei

Episode 5, "Escape To U-Tapao," shares pilot Roger Youngblood's incredible firsthand account of the chaotic final days of April 1975 as South Vietnam and Cambodia fell. Amidst the "wild west show" of the "Escape to U-Tapao," where numerous aircraft and people flooded into Thailand, Youngblood and Jack Drummond were tasked by General Aderholt with a seemingly impossible mission: recover 11 dilapidated A-1 Skyraiders found abandoned and damaged, sitting in water. This episode details the extreme risks they faced flying these unpredictable aircraft with no records or functional ejection seats, ultimately saving four A-1s and navigating a complex international effort involving Thai bureaucracy, makeshift transport, and a Russian trawler to bring these historic planes back to the United States.

People: Aderholt Heinie, Drummond Jack, Youngblood, Roger

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider

Units: USAF 1st SOS - HOBO

Topics: Escape To U-Tapao

Episode 4 of Military Tales features MACV SOG medic Doc Padgett, who takes listeners deep into the secret war, sharing his path from volunteering for Special Forces to becoming a medic in the elite Studies and Observations Group. Padgett provides a raw account of his experiences, most notably during Operation Tailwind, a perilous mission involving the deepest penetration into the Laos Ho Chi Minh Trail area. As a chase medic, he recounts the intense danger of extracting wounded under fire, including the harrowing moment his Marine CH-53 helicopter was shot down by a B40 rocket. Decades later, in a truly astonishing twist, Padgett details meeting the son of the Russian advisor to the North Vietnamese anti-aircraft artillery units that were shooting at him during Tailwind while on a mission in Kazakhstan. This episode reveals the chaos and courage of clandestine operations, underscores the critical role of medics under fire, and vividly illustrates how the military forms a very tight-knit, small community, where paths can intersect in unexpected ways long after the fighting has ceased.

People: Padgett, John - Doc

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, CH-53D "Dimmer"

Units: ARMY MACV SOG

Topics: Prairie Fire

Episode 3 of "Military Tales" explores the critical role of the 6th Special Operations Squadron (SOS) and the versatile A-1 Skyraider in supporting MACV SOG and Search and Rescue (SAR) missions. Operating primarily from Pleiku, Vietnam, these aircrews forged unique relationships with the ground teams they supported, often engaging in dangerous, close-air support with heavy ordnance. Featuring perspectives from pilots and an ordnance mechanic, the episode recounts harrowing experiences, the perils of handling explosives, dramatic in-flight emergencies, and the profound impact of the squadron's losses, which included 15 airplanes and 12 pilots killed, offering a compelling look at their part in the secret war.

People: DePorter, Win, Dineen, Don, Engebretsen, Don, Etterling, Paul, Harris, Ruff

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider

Units: 56th SOW OLAA, 6th SOS, USAF 56th SOW OLAA

Topics: Prairie Fire

Explore the hidden battles of the Vietnam War in "Secret War Revealed: SOG's Deadliest Vietnam Missions," Episode 2. This episode pulls back the curtain on MACV SOG's top-secret operations conducted "across the fence" in Laos (Prairie Fire) and Cambodia (Daniel Boone), revealing a world of extreme danger and high casualties for the Green Berets and supporting aircrews. From daring insertions and extractions under fire with South Vietnamese Air Force King Bee helicopters and beloved A-1 Skyraider (Spad) support to intense firefights and perilous Bright Light recovery missions, hear firsthand accounts of the incredible risks faced by SOG recon teams operating deep in enemy territory without conventional support. Learn about the sacrifices made under strict secrecy and the mission that led to a Medal of Honor for medic Mike Rose during Operation Tailwind, offering an unflinching look at the deadliest combat of the secret war.

People: Engebretsen, Don, Hunt, George - Wilson, Meyer, John Stryker - Tilt

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, HH-53, O-1 Bird Dog, O-2 Skymaster

Units: 56th SOW OLAA, ARMY MACV SOG

Topics: Bright Light Missions, Prairie Fire

The Tennessee Museum of Aviation recently hosted a powerful reunion spotlighting Operation Tailwind, a covert 1970 Vietnam War mission into Laos led by Army Special Forces and supported by daring aviators. Featured in the YouTube video “Episode 1 – Operation Tailwind Presentation,” the event included firsthand accounts from mission leader Gene McCarley and the aircrews who provided critical support under intense fire. The mission involved deep infiltration, constant combat, and complex coordination between Special Forces and aircraft like A-1 Skyraiders, CH-53 helicopters, Cobra gunships, and C-130 gunships. A highlight was the bravery of medic Gary “Mike” Rose, who saved lives despite his own serious injuries. The presentation honored the inter-service heroism and deep camaraderie forged in one of the Vietnam War’s most dangerous and secret operations.

People: Beardall, Bill, Bright, Bernie, Driscoll, Joe, Feld, Don, Kasbeer, Chuck, McCarley, Gene, Meyer, John Stryker - Tilt, Pencek, Barry, Persky, Don, Rentz, Levy, Schmidt, Craig, Smith, Larry, Swanson, Mel, Tom, Stump

Aircraft: A-1 Skyraider, AH-1 Cobra "Scarface", CH-53D "Dimmer", O-2 Skymaster, OV-10

Units: 56th SOW OLAA, ARMY MACV SOG, Marine HMH-463, Marine HML-367, USAF 1st SOS - HOBO, USAF 21st PFE FAC, USAF 56th SOW OLAA

Topics: Prairie Fire