Discussion in progress at the SOG/SPAD Symposium, SOAR XXXVIII, Las Vegas, 2014. Don Engebretsen stands at left in the orange A-1 Skyraider party suit whose sleeve tabs read SANDY, SUPER SPAD and FIREFLY -- callsigns of the Skyraider mission. At center a veteran in a flight jacket passes a printed list across the room; at right another takes the microphone. Sessions ran informally, with documents circulating and several men on their feet at once, as aircrew and MACV-SOG reconnaissance veterans reconstructed cross-border operations from memory and from whatever records they had brought with them. Project: 219883